The Magills
This page is about my mother’s father’s family, which includes the Magills and the Campbells, the Tindals and the McConnells, and their journies from there to here.
McConnell and Magill
Crawford Magill (also McGill in some records) married Elizabeth McConnell (also McConell, M’Connell and McConnel in some records) in Raloo, Antrim, Northern Ireland on the 26th of May 1874. Find My Past (findmypast.ie) confirms that there is a record for the marriage between Elizabeth and Crawford in the registration district of Larne, County Antrim, Ireland. (Volume 6, p. 701).
Record from Ancestry
They then emigrated to Victoria, Australia aboard the “Great Britain” in July 1874. Elizabeth travelled under her maiden name with her family,
and the passenger list has a C. McGill as a single passenger.
Header for passenger lists for the “Great Britain”
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/3B4BACEC-F96C-11E9-AE98-7B5C08B25DBA?image=79
Extract from the passenger list of the “Great Britain” showing the McConnel families.
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/3B4BACEC-F96C-11E9-AE98-7B5C08B25DBA?image=82
Extract from the passenger list of the “Great Britain” showing C. McGill.
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/3B4BACEC-F96C-11E9-AE98-7B5C08B25DBA?image=84
Elizabeth McConnell already had a son, William Owen McConnell, born when she was fifteen and a half years old.
William Owen McConnell 1864 in Larne, Antrim, Ireland, married Jane May Moore in Victoria, Australia in 1884 (Registry number 4696/1884), he passed away in Melbourne, Victoria, in 1905 (Registry number 13496/1905).
Elizabeth and Crawford had six children:
Isabella 1875 in Warnambool, Victoria (Registry number 20217/1875), married William Ephraim Britain in Victoria in 1896 (Registry number 7079 in 1896), she married Henry Arthur Scott in Bunbury, Western Australia in 1903 (Registry number 1979 in 1903), she passed away in Mount Lawley, Western Australia in 1940 (Registry number 100099 in 1940).
Letitia 1876 in Warnambool, Victoria (Registry number 20013/1876), she passed away in Allansford, Victoria in 1951 (Registry number 11088/1951).
William Arthur 1877 in Allansford, (surname recorded as McGill in the Victorian records, Registry number 12606/1877). See below for details.
John Crawford 1878 in Allansford, Victoria (Registry number 20251/1878), married Laura May Englefield in Victoria in 1928 (Registry number 11964 in 1928), he passed away in Melbourne, Victoria in 1942 (Registry number 11162/1942).
Matthew 1881 in Allansford, Victoria (recorded as Arthur in the Victorian records – according to family legend, when Crawford was registering the birth of Matthew, the clerk asked the name, and Crawford said “Arthur!” at the same time, chastising William Arthur. Registry number 13601/1881), married Sarah Blanch Dalton in Greenbushes, Western Australia in 1908 (Registry number 500005 in 1908), he was killed in France in 1916 while fighting in WWII.
Edward James 1887 in Allansford, Victoria (Registry number 20217/1887), married Maggie Sutherland in Victoria in 1909 (Registry number 5840/1909, surname recorded as McGill), he passed away in Warnambool, Victoria in 1943 (Registry number 19383/1943).
Crawford Magill died in Western Australia on the 16th of February 1900 (Registry number 2252 in 1900, surname recorded as McGill), injuries sustained falling out of a tree. He was buried in the Pioneer Park Cemetery up near the back beach in Bunbury, but according to the Bunbury Cemetery Board he was exhumed and moved to the current Bunbury Cemetery in the 1930s. Some of the headstones from the park have been moved to the Bunbury Cemetery, however a visit to see if there is a headstone for him was fruitless.
Elizabeth McConnell Magill died on the 12th of November 1902 in Warnambool, Victoria (Registry number 16033/1902).
Record from Ancestry
Campbell and Magill
William Arthur Magill’s first marriage to Jessie Campbell
Jessie Campbell married William Arthur Magill (known as Arthur) in Bridgetown, Western Australia in 1907, according to Jessie’s death record.. No record of the marriage could be found in the Western Australian births, deaths, and marriages records. It would appear that the marriage and the baptism of the children was in the Anglican faith. After contacting the Anglican Diocese of Perth, contact information for the Diocese of Bunbury, within which Bridgetown falls, and contact was made with the office in Bunbury. They have so far been unable to help, and a search of marriage indexes in the State Library of Western Australia have so far been fruitless. They had three children:
Elizabeth Anne 1908 in Greenbushes, Western Australia in 1908 according to her death certificate, however so far, no record of the birth has been found on the Western Australian births, deaths and marriages register. She died in Wellington District (Collie) on November the 26th, 1946 (Registry number 188 in 1946). Elizabeth, known as Bess, was to be married to Charlie Moir, the date set for only a few weeks after she died.
Donald Crawford 1909 in the Blackwood District in Western Australia, in 1909 (Registry number 69 in 1909). Greenbushes lies in this district, so it is likely that he was born there as well. He married Gertrude Mary Issacs in the Wellington district (probably Collie) in 1941 (Registry number 6600177 in 1941), he passed away in the Perth district in 1976 (Registry number 103328 in 1976).
Rae Edward James was born in North Fitzroy, Victoria, on the 3rd of March 1911 (Registry number 3246/1911). See below.
Sadly, Jessie Campbell Magill passed away in Fitzroy, Victoria, five months later at the age of 23. (Registry number 8908/1911).
Purchased record from Victorian births, deaths, and marriages office. (bdm.vic.gov.au)
Trowbridge and Magill
William Arthur Magill’s second marriage to May Eva Trowbridge
The family (William Arthur and children Elizabeth, Donald and Rae) moved back to Western Australia and settled eventually in Collie, Western Australia. William Arthur Magill remarried to May Eva Trowbridge in 1914 in the Wellington District (Registry number 52 in 1914).
May Eva Trowbridge already had a daughter:
Edna Olive Trowbridge, born in Fremantle, Western Australia in 1913 (Registry number 2700400 in 1913, father not listed), she had three spouses, George Budd (Registry number 66000181 in 1931, her surname recorded as Magill), William Hewitt, and Curly Anderson. She passed away in 1995.
The children from the marriage of May and William Arthur are as follows:
Frederick Arthur 1915 in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 491 in 1915), married Della Elizabeth McCaughan in Collie in 1946 (Registry number 6600181 in 1946), he passed away in Bunbury, Western Australia in 1983 (Registry number 6600194 in 1983).
Matthew 1917 in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 3 in 1917), married Shirley O’Brien in Perth, Western Australia in 1946 (Registry number 103036 in 1946), he passed away in Collie in 1980 (Registry number 6600255 in 1980).
Arthur Melville 1919 in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 70 in 1919), married Edith Mary Hackett in Perth, Western Australia in 1947 (Registry number 100146 in 1947), he passed away in the Wellington District (Registry number 6600164 in 1979).
Lesley 1920 in Yarloop, Western Australia (Registry number 362 in 1920), married Norma Jensen, and passed away in 2005.
Norman 1920 in Yarloop, Western Australia (Registry number 363 in 1920), married Margaret Milligan, and passed away in 2005.
Reginald John 1924 in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 117 in 1924), married Dorothy May Wood in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 6600069 in 1947), and passed away in 1995.
Jean Letitia 1927 in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 193 in 1927), married Ronald Cowper, and passed away in Bunbury, Western Australia on Christmas Day, 2021.
Dudley William 1932 in Collie, Western Australia (Registry number 495 in 1932), married Beryl Britten, and is still living.
Nellie Lorraine 1936 in Collie, Western Australia, married George Saunders, and passed away in Collie, Western Australia in 1984 (Registry number 6600024 in 1984).
May Eva Trowbridge Magill died in Collie, Western Australia in 1939 (Registry number 6600115).
William Arthur Magill died in Perth, Western Australia in 1950 (Registry number 101656 in 1950). They are buried in the Collie Cemetery.
Photo by author, 28th of February 2022
Finlay and Magill
Rae Edward James Magill married Amy Alexandra Finlay, on the 26th of September 1939, in Norseman, Western Australia. (Registry number 2400024 in 1939). They had one child, Merilyn Magill, born in Norseman (my mother).
Weddings. (1939, October 19). The Norseman-Esperance News (WA : 1936 - 1954), p. 3.
Retrieved November 22, 2022, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article258934592
Amy Finlay Magill died in Bunbury, Western Australia in 1992, and is interred at Bunbury Crematorium Gardens.
Rae Magill died in Bunbury, Western Australia in 2002, and is interred next to Amy.
The McConnells
William McConnell, (born to William Thomas McConnell and Elizabeth Corbin or Parkey on the 11th of May 1820 in Ballymena, Northern Ireland) married Letitia Sarah Foster (born to Joseph Foster and Harriet Semple in May 1816, in Ballyverston, Northern Ireland), on the 23rd of April 1841 in Ballymena.
They had nine children:
Harriet 10th of September 1841
Mary (born and died) 1841 – possibly a twin?
William 12th of May 1843
Joseph 24th of January 1846
Elizabeth 18th of June 1848 (see above)
Thomas 17th of February 1850
James 21st of April 1852
John 26th of May 1854
Hugh 24th of February 1858
Letitia McConnell died on the 18th of November 1891 in Warnambool, Victoria.
Purchased record from Victorian births, deaths, and marriages office. (bdm.vic.gov.au)
William McConnell (the elder) died in Panmure, Victoria in 1905 (Registry number 13915/1905)
Snip of index from search on Victorian births, deaths and marriages website (bdm.vic.gov.au)
The Campbells
McColl and Campbell
Hugh Campbell married Ann McColl on the 25th of July 1771, in the parish of Kilninian and Kilmore, on the Isle of Mull, Scotland. The Isle of Mull is on the west coast of Scotland in the Inner Hebrides islands. Hugh’s occupation was listed on Duncan’s death record as a crofter – someone who leased a small amount of land, a croft, to farm, mostly subsistence. They had six children that records were found for on the ScotlandsPeople website:
John 5 Feb 1773
Janet 26 Nov 1774
Mary 10 Nov 1776
Ann 5 Dec 1785
Donald 10 Jun 1787
Duncan 4 Nov 1793
No death records for Hugh or Ann have been found yet that can be verified, however Findagrave.com has a Hugh Campbell, born 1749, died 1810, buried on the Isle of Mull. It lists his wife as Catherine Campbell, however a note left on the site says that the person believed his wife to be Grace (known as Ann) McColl.
McLean and Campbell
Duncan Campbell married Janet McLean (daughter of Donald McLean and Isobel McNiven or McNivein) on the 4th of August 1818, parish of Kilninian and Kilmore. (The record shows she was from Dervaig, he was from Tengie, also known as Tongue).
Record obtained from ScotlandsPeople website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Duncan was described on the census record as a crofter and tailor. They had five children according to the ScotlandsPeople records; however, it should be noted that a lot of the records hold different spellings, and sometimes searches online do not get all the records. Also, there are two Catharines, this sometimes happens when the older of the two dies young, and the family uses the name again, or could be the same child with two different dates on the record. After visiting Dervaig, and the Mull Museum in Tobermory, much more information came to light. A woman named Jo Currie has written a comprehensive book about Mull and its people, and Duncan, Janet and their son John appear in the book. Further, while writing the book Jo Currie created over 10,000 index cards with names, dates, events and children etc. for people on Mull. On Duncan Campbell’s record I found out that the second Catharine was a twin, her sister Janet (record not on ScotlandsPeople) also born that day, and that there were two more children that were not registered in the online records (ScotlandsPeople) – Mary and John. The children are listed in order below:
Hugh 26 April 1819
Record obtained from ScotlandsPeople website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Lachlan 31 Jul 1821
Catharine 18 Sep 1823
Anne 9 Jan 1825
Catharine 9 Sep 1826 and Janet 9 Sep 1826 “lawful twins” (From index card at Mull Museum)
Mary (1828, from index card at Mull Museum)
John (1831, from index card at Mull Museum)
Census records from 1841 mention the family, there is no mention of Hugh (had left home by then) Lachlan – unknown if he had left home or had passed away, Catharine (born 1823) same, Anne was on the census return, the twins Catharine and Janet were not, Mary and John were. The assumption is that the twins did not survive. It should be noted that it was not compulsory to register deaths, and quite often up until 1855 when the government took over the records, the deaths were not registered (there being a fee that frankly some families could not afford), making the tracing of certain people difficult. Janet’s age: Baptised in 1807, meaning she would have been 11 when she married. 1841 census says she was 40, meaning she would have been born in 1801, and the 1861 census has her age as 67, making her born in 1794. Lastly her death record says she was 86 in 1877, putting her year of birth as 1791. I decided to go with the middle ground and picked 1800 as a base.
Janet McLean Campbell died in Dervaig, Isle of Mull, on the 9th of May, 1877.
Duncan Campbell died in Dervaig, Isle of Mull, on the 3rd of August, 1877.
Janet McLean Campbell and Duncan Campbell’s death records from ScotlandsPeople
McIntyre and Campbell
Hugh Campbell was married to Mary McIntyre on the 25th of December 1849, by a Mr. Hugh McDougall, a Free Church minister in Glasgow, Scotland.
Record obtained from ScotlandsPeople website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
The marriage record lists Hugh Campbell’s occupation as tailor, which differs from sailor as recorded on James Campbell’s death certificate. They had five children:
Caroline 1850 Glasgow Barony, Scotland (details from 1851 census), She married James Dornan (son of James William Dornan and Francis Prentice or Knox) on the 22nd of December 1869 in Elmhurst, Victoria (Registry number 4177/1869), she died in South Australia in 1927 (Ancestry)
Colin 1851 Scotland (record not found as yet, year of birth inferred from immigration records), he married Margaret McDonald in 1875 in Victoria (Registry number 3131/1875), he died in Kalgoor;ie, Western Australia in 1941 (Registry number 1800059 in 1941).
Duncan 1856 in Warnambool, Victoria (Registry number 2180/1856), he married Alice Adelaide Hamilton in Hawthorn on the 20th of July 1887 (Ancestry), he died in Dwellingup, Western Australia in 1928 (Registry number 4700020 in 1928).
James 1857 Meredith, Victoria (birth record not found yet, details inferred from parent’s death records and his own records for marriage and death), see below.
Mary Ann 1861 in Borhoneyghurk, Victoria (Registry number 3132/1860), she married William Sloan in 1879 (Registry number 4357/1879), she died in 1903 in South Melbourne, Victoria at 42 years of age (Registry number 14496/1903).
Searches in the Scottish records unearthed the following from the 1851 Census in the UK:
Record obtained from ScotlandsPeople
Information in this record notes birthplaces for Hugh, Mary, and Caroline, and that they were residing at a boarding house run by Euphemia McLean, Hugh’s aunt. Hugh’s death record in Victoria notes his parents as Duncan Campbell and Caroline McLean, however the Scottish record fits all the other details including place and year of birth, so it is assumed that Janet may also have been known as Caroline.
The Australian records search started with the Victorian births, deaths and marriages for any records that contained Hugh and Mary as parents. Two records were found, for Duncan Campbell in 1856 (Registry number 2180/1856) and Mary Ann Campbell in 1861 (Registry number 3132/1861).
Knowing that previous children would be listed on the birth record of the youngest, Mary Ann’s birth record was obtained from the Victorian births, deaths, and marriages website. This record listed three older siblings, Caroline, Colin, and Duncan. As the year of Duncan’s birth was close to James Campbell, it was assumed for a while that James was Duncan. As there were no records for Caroline and Colin in the Victorian records, a search was made in ScotlandsPeople (Scotland’s birth deaths and marriages/archives). No birth records appeared, however there is a record of the family, an immigration document on the ScotlandsPeople website, that produced Caroline’s name.
The detail on the document reads as follows:
Heading: List of Emigrants assisted by the Highland and Island Emigration Society and embarked onboard the Ship “New Zealander” which sailed from Liverpool for Portland Bay on 23rd July 1853.
Detail: Number 463 – Campbell, Hugh (32), Mary (28), Caroline (2), Colin (1). From Quinish, Isle of Mull. Estate: Mr. McLean of Coll: Remarks – very good family: Pro Rate £9.0.8½.
(Portland Bay is on the south coast of Victoria, 96 kilometers from Warnambool towards the South Australian border).
Update: Quinnish is near Dervaig and appears to be private property rather than a town.
Record from ScotlandsPeople
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/assisted-passenger-lists
Side note: The “New Zealander” departed from Liverpool on the 23rd of August 1853 to Australia carrying 465 assisted passengers. The immigrants were mainly Irish (103) and Scottish (362). After unloading the passengers, and 16 days in Portland, the vessel underwent an extensive refit. 18 of the original crew had to be jailed for failing to prepare for the return journey. On the 16th of December 1853, after Captain Brown had tried to muster a new crew, the ship was found ablaze at 4am. It was towed to the beach at Whaler’s Bluff and continued to burn. One theory at the time was that the cook set the ship alight because the crew wanted to go ashore, whilst another theory was spontaneous combustion of the coal cargo, fueled by the new varnish which kept the hull burning. The vessel burned for 2 to 3 weeks and was visible for many years above the water at the foot of the lighthouse. (Heritage Victoria website, vhd.heritage.vic.gov.au/shipwrecks/heritage/489).
Further details of the ship “New Zealander” – she was a three masted wooden sailing ship built in 1852 at the port of Pictou, (Nova Scotia), Canada. She was registered in the port of Liverpool, England, and the voyage to Australia was her maiden. She was owned by A.W. Sharp, and the return voyage was to be with a cargo of coal.
S489_NewZealander_PortlandBay_C from vhd.heritage.vic.gov.au/shipwrecks/heritage/489
Side note: Borhoneyghurk is located near Meredith in rural Victoria, see information below. James’ birthplace on his marriage record is listed as Buninyong, however on Jessie’s birth record he says Meredith.
From Trove, https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-232048154/view
Later research of the Victorian records leads to two possible Hugh Campbell death records, of the approximate correct age. The first record obtained had no details other than the name Hugh Campbell, the age, and the cause of death. All the other usual details such as spouse and children were listed as unknown, and as such was a dead end.
It was later that the second record (Registry number 2891/1868) was identified as a potential match, and after it was obtained it was discovered that it listed five children, including James, between Duncan and Mary Ann.
This was unexpected but clears up the matter of whether Duncan was James. On Mary Ann’s birth record, where James is not mentioned, Mary (McIntyre) Campbell’s “signature” is an X, surrounded by the words her mark, so the assumption is that the record taker did not correctly take down the details of the family.
Hugh Campbell died at the Ararat Hospital on the 25th of April 1868 of an aneurism of the aorta, and he was buried the same day in the Ararat cemetery. His occupation was listed as shepherd, and Mary McIntyre Campbell was still living at this time. The five children are listed with their ages, James being only 10 when his father died. Hugh Campbell’s parents are listed as Duncan Campbell, sailor, and Caroline Campbell formerly McLean. Searches for Mary McIntyre Campbell in the Victorian records have produced several possibilities, with little or no information available to narrow down the choices. On the 7th of July 2023 – I found her. I went to the Karrakatta Cemetery in Perth, Western Australia on the 7th of July 2023, and went to James Campbell’s grave to photograph the headstone. I found that Annie Tindal Campbell was also buried in that plot, and they share a headstone. There was a second headstone on the grave, half buried and badly weathered, (photo below), for “beloved mother Mary Campbell,” (the only words I could make out). I did not make the connection to Mary McIntyre Campbell until later that day, as I was still working with the information that she had died in Victoria, Australia in 1907. I had also assumed that the headstone for Mary Campbell was later than the one for Annie and James. Burial records for Mary Campbell in the Karrakatta Cemetery, for the plot number 426, states that Mary Campbell was born in 1819, and died on the 12th of December 1908. Searching the Western Australian births, deaths and marriages online index found a death record for Mary Campbell, 89 years old, father – John McIntyre, mother Mary unknown. (Registry number 100724 in 1908). The confirmation was that she was Mary McIntyre Campbell. Death certificate was ordered, and it confirms that it was her, listing Caroline, Colin, Duncan, James and one female deceased (Mary Ann had passed away six years earlier). It notes that Mary had lived in Western Australia for 11 years.
Purchased record from Victorian births, deaths, and marriages office. (bdm.vic.gov.au)
Mary McIntyre Campbell’s headstone, Karrakatta Cemetery, Western Australia
Side Note: Annie Tindal Campbell’s first marriage to Alfred Robert Utber.
We know from Annie Tindal Utber Campbell’s death certificate (Registry number in Western Australia 151 in 1940), that David and Elizabeth were her parents, and from Jessie Campbell’s birth record that Annie believed she was born in Balwyn, Victoria (now a suburb of Melbourne). There are a few conflicting records as to age. (It should be noted here that Annie’s age as listed on Jessie Campbell’s birth record would mean she was born in 1861/1862, where her death certificate indicates she was born in 1860/1861, meaning the inference is that she was possibly born in 1861 – this is confirmed with her age as listed on her father’s death record, as she was 40 years old on the 11th of November 1901. Further, her death certificate states she was 22 when she married Alfred Robert Utber, which would indicate that she was born in 1861).
Annie Tindal married Alfred Robert Utber in 1884 in Victoria (Registry number 3033/1884), and they had one child:
Annie Louisa Utber 1884 in Hawthorn, Victoria in (Registry number 24942/1884).
Tragically, Alfred Robert Utber died in Hawthorn, Victoria, in 1885, at the age of 21 (Registry number 8803/1885).
Family Notices (1885, July 20). The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), p. 1. Retrieved November 23, 2022,
from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article6087318
No Title (1885, July 21). The Kyneton Observer (Vic. : 1856 - 1900), p. 2. Retrieved November 22, 2022,
from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article240949616
From here it is unclear what happened to Annie Louisa, as she was not part of the family when Annie remarried in 1887, and there was no further record of her in Victorian registries. However, a broader search found that she had married in Glebe, NSW in 1909 (Registry number 8000/1909) to Frank Spurrier. They had one child:
Herbert Stephen 1915, in Granville, NSW (Registry number 6935/1915), he passed away in 1960, in Sydney, NSW (Registry number 18573/1960), apparently without marrying or issue.
Frank Spurrier died in 1954, in Auburn, NSW (Registry number 26887/1954).
Annie Louisa Utber Spurrier died in 1963 in Sydney, NSW (Registry number 18005/1963) The assumption is that she was raised by her paternal family, however death notices for Annie Campbell note Annie Louisa as a sister to Rose, Jessie (dec) and Bella (dec).
Tindal and Campbell
Annie Tindal (Utber) married James Campbell in Victoria in 1887 (Registry number 5038/1887). Notably, the witnesses were James’s brother Duncan and Annie’s sister Mary. They had three children:
Jessie 1888 in Hawthorn, Victoria, on May 2nd. The address on the birth record says Smart Street, Town of Hawthorn, County of Bourke. (Registry number 12123/1888), and lists James Campbell, sawyer, aged 29, born in Meredith, Victoria as the father, and Annie Campbell, m.n Tindal, late Utber, aged 26, born in Balwyn, Victoria. The birth record does not show any previous issue (see above).
Elizabeth Isabella was born in Richmond, Victoria in 1892 (Registry number 35868/1892). Tragically, Elizabeth died in 1894 in Richmond, Victoria (Registry number 3673/1894) aged 18 months.
Margaret Rose 1895 in Richmond, Victoria (Registry number 15448/1895), she married Frederick John Aberle in the Wellington District of Western Australia (probably Collie) in 1915 (Registry number 115 in 1915), she died in Perth District, Western Australia in 1944 (Registry number 197 in 1944).
Annie Utber (maiden name Tindal) and James Campbell marriage record purchased record from Victorian births, deaths, and marriages office. (bdm.vic.gov.au)
James Campbell died in Claymore, Western Australia in 1921 (registry number 6000009 in 1921). Claymore is a rail siding in the region of Jarrahwood, Western Australia, approximately halfway between Nannup and Busselton. He was working at a sawmill sharpening saw blades when he suffered a heart attack and died.
Annie Tindal Utber Campbell died in Rivervale, Western Australia in 1940 (registry number 100151 in 1940).
James Campbell’s death certificate from WABDM
Annie Tindal Utber Campbell’s death certificate from WABDM
The McIntyres
One record was found for a marriage for John McIntyre and Mary Campbell in the right area of Scotland, Kilninver and Kilmelfort on the 12th of April 1802. (Near Oban/Fort William, Inverness-shire, Scotland).
Record obtained from ScotlandsPeople website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Only one record for a child from the marriage was found, baptism:
Mary 1819 (born on not recorded, baptised on the 7th of February) Kilninver and Kilmelfort Parish.
Record obtained from ScotlandsPeople website www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
The McLeans
Donald McLean married Isobel McNiven (also McNivein) on the 31st of January 1792, in Kilninian and Kilmore, (Isle of Mull). They had eight children that records were found for:
John 1792 (30th of June) Kilninian and Kilmore
Ann 1794 (2nd of July) Kilninian and Kilmore
Lauchlan 1796 (29th of May) Kilninian and Kilmore
Hugh 1798 (22nd of July) Kilninian and Kilmore
Mary 1800 (19th of October) Kilninian and Kilmore
Flora 1803 (30th of January) Kilninian and Kilmore
Archibald 1805 (28th of April) Kilninian and Kilmore
Janet 1807 (7th of June) Kilninian and Kilmore – see above.
The Tindals
Smith and Tindal
David Tindal married Elizabeth Smith (daughter of Joseph Smith and Elizabeth unknown according to her death record, however further reseach has found that her mother’s name was Isobel Barclay, also known as Isobel Falconer), in Brechin Parish, Scotland, on Friday the 26th of March 1852. Side Note: Internet research has located Upper Tenements as a “suburb” of the city of Brechin, the area is now known as Montrose Street. (https://electricscotland.com/history/brechin/chapter12.htm)
“These two suburbs of Upper and Nether Tenements, according to their old names, now Montrose Street and River Street, are connected together by means of paths, as they are termed. Running west from the north end or head of the High Street, is the Upper Wynd, now called St David Street, and running west from the centre of the High Street is the Old Nether Wynd, now Church Street, both of which streets are connected by St Mary Street at the west end, from which proceeds the road to Forfar, by the street now called Castle Street Running west from St David Street, where St Mary Street commences, is a street formerly called Gold’s Yards, now Airlie Street, with Pearse Street branching off from it, and connecting it with the Latch Road, all of which form egresses to the country on the west side of the town.”
(Extract from the above website).
Record purchased from Scotland’s People website. www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Scotland’s People were contacted to see if they knew which church in Brechin David and Elizabeth were married in, however the reply was that the records only indicated that they were married in the parish, not at which church. The email said that they were married in the Church of Scotland. The Church of Scotland has been contacted to get some information on what churches were operating in Brechin in 1852. The reply from them was to contact the library in Brechin, to get information about the local churches there. Brechin Library replied with a link to their paid service. Update: The trip to Scotland was amazing, and I found out so much more information. A visit to the Angus Archives at Forfar helped me find all sorts of information, amongst which was the fact that the only Church of Scotland church in Brechin at the time they were married was the Brechin Cathedral – the East Church was not built until 1856/7. The visit to the archives also gave me some leads for Elizabeth’s family, and also led to the fact that her name was often spelled with an “s” instead of a “z”.
They then travelled to Australia the same year on the ship “Wanata,” arriving October 1852. They came out to the colony on an assisted passage, meaning that they came out already employed and with their passage subsidised. According to the records, they were engaged by a Mr. J McKay of Melbourne, as labourers. They were paid £60 for three months, with supplied rations. The record also shows that they were from Forfar, Scotland, which is the shire, Brechin being within the shire. Ship’s records are available on the Public Record Office Victoria website, via passenger records and immigration, assisted passenger lists, search family name Tindal in 1852.
Page from the “Wanata” manifest record also from prov.vic.gov.au
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/assisted-passenger-lists
They had eight children:
James 1856 in Melbourne, Victoria (Registry number 7052/1856 - on obtaining the record it showed that James was born in 1854, and not registered until 1856 – this ties in with his age on his death notice in the paper) married Emily Lisle (also spelled Lyle in some records) in Victoria in 1882 (Registry number 2512/1882) and died in Victoria (Melb E) in 1904 (Registry number 2135/1904). It should be noted that while his birth and death records spell his surname Tindall, his marriage record is under Tindal.
Isabella 1856 in Kew, Victoria (Registry number 7067/1856, surname spelled Tindall – her birth record was obtained recently to try and determine if she and James were twins – as noted above he was actually two years older), married William John Fowler, in Victoria in 1878 (Registry number 2295/1878) and died in Victoria (Doncaster) in 1886 (Registry number 8931/1886). Marriage record spells surname Tindal.
Margaret 1858 in Boroondara, Victoria (Registry number 14836/1858, surname spelled Tindall), married James Allen Parker in Victoria in 1882 (Registry number 849/1882) and died in Victoria (Kew) in 1919 (Registry number 13043/1919). Marriage record spells surname Tindal.
Annie 1861 in Balwyn, Victoria. See above.
Rose Ella (also known as Rose and Rosella in the records) 1865 in Boroondara, Victoria in 1865 (Registry number 15811/1865), married Edward George Washfold in Victoria in 1884 (Registry number 6838/1884) and died in Kew, Victoria in 1943 (Registry number 4351/1943).
Mary 1868 in Doncaster, Victoria (Registry number 15765/1868), married George Robert Thomas Drew in 1894 (Registry number 3079/1894), she passed away in Richmond, Victoria in 1953 (Registry number 3602/1953).
Clara Jane (also known as Jane in the records) 1870 in Doncaster, Victoria (Registry number 22688/1870), married Albert John Keilour in Victoria in 1895, (Registry number 6859/1895) and died in Richmond, Victoria in 1942 (Registry number 3667/1942).
Alfred Joseph 1873 in Doncaster, Victoria (Registry number in Victoria 2000/1873), married Susannah Gould in Victoria in 1899 (Registry number 1/1899) and died in Kew, Victoria in 1930 (Registry number 5798/1930).
The only one of the eight children listed on the death records for both David and Elizabeth Tindal that does not appear in the Victorian records under any variation of Tindal is Annie (1861 - 1940). Further to this, there are no records for any Tindal or Tindall in 1860-1862 that could be Annie.
David Tindal died in Anderson’s Creek (Warrandyte), Victoria, in 1901 (Registry number 12153/1901). Children listed in the last column, Annie between Margaret and Rosella.
Purchased record from Victorian births, deaths, and marriages office. (bdm.vic.gov.au)
Interestingly, it lists his mother’s family name, Lucas, however a further search of the Scottish records for his birth has so far been without result. There have been two interesting records that may fit, one being a stronger link than the other, investigations ongoing. Update – A record for the baptism of David Tindal, father James (mother not recorded) near Brechin (Menmuir) recorded in 1833, notes James’ occupation as tailor. The search parameters were from 1825 to 1835, assuming that David was born in 1829 (records indicating he was 23 in 1852). There was only one record in that ten-year range for the whole of Scotland, the above-mentioned. Update: further record searches have discovered that his mother’s name was most likely Margaret Leuchars, which can be misheard as Lucas.
Research ongoing, there are some very interesting leads on Ancestry, yet to be verified.
Elizabeth Smith Tindal died in Richmond, Victoria in 1913 (registry number 11164/1913).
Purchased record from Victorian births, deaths, and marriages office. (bdm.vic.gov.au)